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Re: Carbs

#61 PostAuthor: Skid Mark » Sat Mar 12, 2022 12:08 am

Mr Bump wrote:http://z1ownersclub.co.uk/phpBB3/viewtopic.php?f=4&t=43812&start=15

Sounds like you've found the problem, but this might be of interest too. Note my experience with viton seals that didn't fit correctly. Might be worth checking and changing them while you are in there. I would.

Olly

Interesting!, The othe cylinders all seem fine, I'll chance it for now, as I'll take Al's advice and if I need to split head again I should be able to re use the new head gasket. I have the Vesrah seals put aside...What else would I do in the coming months, No body actually expects me to finish this bike!

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Re: Carbs

#62 PostAuthor: Skid Mark » Sat Mar 12, 2022 12:10 am

z1bman wrote:the broken tab will 100% be the cause. be extra careful when sliding the cylinders over the oil control rings don't even think about reusing. i would clean out the exhaust down pipe before you put the exhaust system back on


Super! I'll flush the pipe through before fitting.

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Re: Carbs

#63 PostAuthor: Skid Mark » Sat Mar 12, 2022 12:15 am

Al wrote:Nothing wrong with Vesrah gaskets Phil its just that they didnt last me for what i have been using them for previously.
I expect you have come across piano wiring in gaskets. The MLS ones from Cometic have a version of that incorporated (bonded onto the surface)
The two main areas' that gave me trouble were the cam chain tunnel and the counter-bores round the oil carrying outer studs. Both of these have the secondary sealing system and to date i have had no issues. The other thing is that they are engineered and that is apparent when you see them. Apparently you can re-use them if they havn't 'passed' oil or gas on the surface but i have had no reason to test that boast yet.
If youre going to get one, smash it on there and so long as you dont blow the gasket you should be able to take it off and use it again. AL


You have me sold! Thanks.

Al wrote:See,.. i can be nice :D AL

Your an internet bully, taking advantage of my fragile state of mind! :lol: :lol:

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Re: Carbs

#64 PostAuthor: Skid Mark » Tue Mar 15, 2022 4:19 pm

Al wrote:MLS (multi layer steel) head gaskets are made by Cometic as in APE, Wiseco etc etc.
They are about £80 but there is only one part, its a one piece item.
The Kawasaki two piece items are about £30 a side plus the centre 'O' ring is about £50!!!
I havnt mentioned Vesrah because for me something as critical as a head or base gasket is not somewhere i would cut a corner.

Here is an example of NOT the right one but for contact details and for an easy view of what we are talking about
https://www.suzukiperformancespares.co. ... sket/5731/

AL

I emailed Suzuki Performance. Apparently Cometic don't do a Gasket for a standard Z1000 head (70mm) they can make to order but it will take 12 weeks! This is not an option. Any other brands do a MLS gasket or will I just go standard?
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Re: Carbs

#65 PostAuthor: z1bman » Tue Mar 15, 2022 7:27 pm

just use genuine kawasaki


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