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Circlips on gear box shafts. How?

#1 PostAuthor: Kwackman » Fri Sep 29, 2017 4:03 pm

Hi,
I'm doing up a little Z400J as my first project, and today I was rebuilding the input shaft of the gearbox.
I'd taken the gears etc off months ago, the manual says it's best to replace the circlips if removed, and mine were.
The parts book calls these Snap rings, they are 24mm.
These are the clips that go in 3 different slots on the shaft to keep the gears in their own spaces.
Marked 92033A in the (hopefully) attached image.
The manual just says to avoid damaging the circlips open them just enough to slide over the shaft- yeah, right!
I've just done the input shaft and got the 3 buggers on, but there must be an easier way than what I'm doing.
It drew blood and I whacked the same finger three times- there aren't enough swear words...
I used circlip pliers, but the clip tended to twist as it was opened wide. There are no holes at the end like other circlips, but a VEE in the end on the edges to put the pliers in.
In the end I had to use them with small flat blade screwdrivers to get the clip to start on the shaft.
Messy, painful and it can't be good for the clip.
Has anyone an easier system, I'm no mechanical genius so maybe I'm missing something obvious.
I've the output shaft to do next, and it has 3 to install too......
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Re: Circlips on gear box shafts. How?

#2 PostAuthor: walshyco » Fri Sep 29, 2017 7:19 pm

You need snap ring pliers they have a small indentation for the clips to sit into and make the job very easy, Ford gearboxes had a very similar arrangement.

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Re: Circlips on gear box shafts. How?

#3 PostAuthor: walshyco » Fri Sep 29, 2017 7:24 pm


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Re: Circlips on gear box shafts. How?

#4 PostAuthor: Kwackman » Fri Sep 29, 2017 8:54 pm

Thanks for the replies Welshyco.
External circles pliers and snap ring pliers seem to be similar if not the same.
Those look a lot more substantial than the reversible set I currently have.
Time to buy a proper set!
Thanks again for the info.
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1982 Z400J project

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GXI 2752 are you out there?

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Re: Circlips on gear box shafts. How?

#5 PostAuthor: walshyco » Sat Sep 30, 2017 3:26 pm

Snap ring pliers are not the same as circlip pliers. Ralph would be the best person to contact. Snap on ones are very pricey, you can get less expensive ones, they really make it an easy job.

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Re: Circlips on gear box shafts. How?

#6 PostAuthor: Kwackman » Sat Sep 30, 2017 4:01 pm

Thanks for that, I needed better circlip pliers anyway, so at least that's ticked of my "tools to buy" list!
Snap ring pliers next..... I'm assuming that's Ralph from Bikers toolbox ltd.
That site could damage a credit card a lot!
Ta again for the info, much appreciated.
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GXI 2752 are you out there?

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Re: Circlips on gear box shafts. How?

#7 PostAuthor: Kwackman » Mon Oct 02, 2017 4:47 pm

Well, today I assembled the output shaft with the better quality circlip pliers.
Even though they weren't called snap ring players, they made the job much easier, and no blood lost this time.
Assembled in about a third of the time the input shaft took!
Thanks Walshyco for pushing me in the right direction.
2006 ZRX1200R
1982 Z400J project

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GXI 2752 are you out there?


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