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Recommended Oil

#1 PostAuthor: Wrigers » Thu Mar 22, 2018 12:43 pm

Hi Chaps, just after some feedback regarding the favourable oil for a A4. This will be a newly rebuilt engine, so I would be keen to know your preferred Oil type..?????

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#3 PostAuthor: deka » Thu Mar 22, 2018 2:07 pm

car oil v motorcyclce oil always a moot point

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#4 PostAuthor: PAULJAC47 » Thu Mar 22, 2018 3:18 pm

Used this stuff for ages,fine for newly rebuilt engine and to use regularly,cheap as chips from here recomemded for classic bikes you dont need fancy oils for Zeds...http://www.tfmsuperstore.co.uk/shop/lub ... 12591.html
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#5 PostAuthor: Ultim8pc » Thu Mar 22, 2018 5:21 pm

PAULJAC47 wrote:Used this stuff for ages,fine for newly rebuilt engine and to use regularly,cheap as chips from here recomemded for classic bikes you dont need fancy oils for Zeds...http://www.tfmsuperstore.co.uk/shop/lub ... 12591.html


I use that in the SR500...
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#6 PostAuthor: ZedHead » Thu Mar 22, 2018 6:40 pm

Semi synthetic is vastly superior to mineral oils of the day. The main reason why modern vehicles have extended service periods and achieve higher mileages.

As said make sure it is JASO approved for use with wet clutches.

If you ride a Duke chip fat will do :lol:

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#7 PostAuthor: Charlie » Thu Mar 22, 2018 7:10 pm

ZedHead wrote:Semi synthetic is vastly superior to mineral oils of the day. The main reason why modern vehicles have extended service periods and achieve higher mileages.

As said make sure it is JASO approved for use with wet clutches.

If you ride a Duke chip fat will do :lol:


Pretty much what he says ^^ :)

Incidentally, Ducati's are recommended to use a JASO MB grade oil as they have dry clutches :wink:

..To dispel another popular myth: Fully synth motorcycle oil will NOT make a wet clutch slip unless the clutch is bolloxed anyway.

If it's JASO MA or MA2 certified, it would have friction modifiers to prevent that happening, irrespective of being semi, synth fortified or fully synthetic build. :)

You can always check the JASO site to see if the oil IS actually certified, or if it is just labelled as JASO standard but with no certification number ... one wonders why certain UK based oil companies would not bother to submit if they are truly confident of meeting JASO ? All the reputable brands do.

http://www.jalos.or.jp/onfile/jaso_e-2.htm
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Re: Recommended Oil

#8 PostAuthor: Wrigers » Thu Mar 22, 2018 8:35 pm

All noted, many thanks.

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#9 PostAuthor: Taffus » Fri Mar 23, 2018 12:21 am

PAULJAC47 wrote:Used this stuff for ages,fine for newly rebuilt engine and to use regularly,cheap as chips from here recomemded for classic bikes you dont need fancy oils for Zeds...http://www.tfmsuperstore.co.uk/shop/lub ... 12591.html

me too !

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#10 PostAuthor: Julian_Boolean » Fri Mar 23, 2018 3:15 pm

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Re: Recommended Oil

#11 PostAuthor: chrisu » Fri Mar 23, 2018 3:57 pm

halfords semi synthetic motorcycle oil is perfectly adequate

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#12 PostAuthor: ZedHead » Fri Mar 23, 2018 4:37 pm

Incidentally, Ducati's are recommended to use a JASO MB grade oil as they have dry clutches :wink:


Why do you need oil for a dry clutch? I am so confused :??

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#13 PostAuthor: Charlie » Fri Mar 23, 2018 5:55 pm

ZedHead wrote:
Incidentally, Ducati's are recommended to use a JASO MB grade oil as they have dry clutches :wink:


Why do you need oil for a dry clutch? I am so confused :??


You don't.

They use a JASO MB grade oil BECAUSE they have a dry clutch ..... The oil goes nowhere near the clutch but it does need different properties to an MA grade oil that does go into the clutch :wink:
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#14 PostAuthor: ZedHead » Sat Mar 24, 2018 12:58 pm

Charlie wrote:
ZedHead wrote:
Incidentally, Ducati's are recommended to use a JASO MB grade oil as they have dry clutches :wink:


Why do you need oil for a dry clutch? I am so confused :??


You don't.

They use a JASO MB grade oil BECAUSE they have a dry clutch ..... The oil goes nowhere near the clutch but it does need different properties to an MA grade oil that does go into the clutch :wink:


Got it Charlie...

MB is the lowest friction oil in the JASO classification. Interesting link you shared thanks.
http://www.jalos.or.jp/onfile/jaso_e-2.htm

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#15 PostAuthor: Charlie » Sat Mar 24, 2018 2:04 pm

They update their references every month Zedhead.

It's always a good source for checking if oil has actually been certified (like Motul, Motorex, Silkolene etc) or if the manufacturers just claim it likely would do if submitted for testing

One wonders why, when most premium oil companies all submit to the internationally recognised body, that a large manufacturer like Rock do not appear to do so ?

It just says JASO xxx but does not carry the official mark or unique certification number on the product, nor does it appear on any of the JASO listings. Yes there is a small fee involved in getting certification, but is IS only a nominal fee. I would never buy a helmet that was not submitted for official approval, why would I use an oil that has not ?

Hence Rock will never ever go anywhere near any of my motors.
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