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Recommended Oil

Posted: Thu Mar 22, 2018 12:43 pm
Author: Wrigers
Hi Chaps, just after some feedback regarding the favourable oil for a A4. This will be a newly rebuilt engine, so I would be keen to know your preferred Oil type..?????

Re: Recommended Oil

Posted: Thu Mar 22, 2018 1:53 pm
Author: z1bman

Re: Recommended Oil

Posted: Thu Mar 22, 2018 2:07 pm
Author: deka
car oil v motorcyclce oil always a moot point

http://www.nightrider.com/biketech/oiltest1.htm

Re: Recommended Oil

Posted: Thu Mar 22, 2018 3:18 pm
Author: PAULJAC47
Used this stuff for ages,fine for newly rebuilt engine and to use regularly,cheap as chips from here recomemded for classic bikes you dont need fancy oils for Zeds...http://www.tfmsuperstore.co.uk/shop/lub ... 12591.html

Re: Recommended Oil

Posted: Thu Mar 22, 2018 5:21 pm
Author: Ultim8pc
PAULJAC47 wrote:Used this stuff for ages,fine for newly rebuilt engine and to use regularly,cheap as chips from here recomemded for classic bikes you dont need fancy oils for Zeds...http://www.tfmsuperstore.co.uk/shop/lub ... 12591.html


I use that in the SR500...

Re: Recommended Oil

Posted: Thu Mar 22, 2018 6:40 pm
Author: ZedHead
Semi synthetic is vastly superior to mineral oils of the day. The main reason why modern vehicles have extended service periods and achieve higher mileages.

As said make sure it is JASO approved for use with wet clutches.

If you ride a Duke chip fat will do :lol:

Re: Recommended Oil

Posted: Thu Mar 22, 2018 7:10 pm
Author: Charlie
ZedHead wrote:Semi synthetic is vastly superior to mineral oils of the day. The main reason why modern vehicles have extended service periods and achieve higher mileages.

As said make sure it is JASO approved for use with wet clutches.

If you ride a Duke chip fat will do :lol:


Pretty much what he says ^^ :)

Incidentally, Ducati's are recommended to use a JASO MB grade oil as they have dry clutches :wink:

..To dispel another popular myth: Fully synth motorcycle oil will NOT make a wet clutch slip unless the clutch is bolloxed anyway.

If it's JASO MA or MA2 certified, it would have friction modifiers to prevent that happening, irrespective of being semi, synth fortified or fully synthetic build. :)

You can always check the JASO site to see if the oil IS actually certified, or if it is just labelled as JASO standard but with no certification number ... one wonders why certain UK based oil companies would not bother to submit if they are truly confident of meeting JASO ? All the reputable brands do.

http://www.jalos.or.jp/onfile/jaso_e-2.htm

Re: Recommended Oil

Posted: Thu Mar 22, 2018 8:35 pm
Author: Wrigers
All noted, many thanks.

Re: Recommended Oil

Posted: Fri Mar 23, 2018 12:21 am
Author: Taffus
PAULJAC47 wrote:Used this stuff for ages,fine for newly rebuilt engine and to use regularly,cheap as chips from here recomemded for classic bikes you dont need fancy oils for Zeds...http://www.tfmsuperstore.co.uk/shop/lub ... 12591.html

me too !

Re: Recommended Oil

Posted: Fri Mar 23, 2018 3:15 pm
Author: Julian_Boolean

Re: Recommended Oil

Posted: Fri Mar 23, 2018 3:57 pm
Author: chrisu
halfords semi synthetic motorcycle oil is perfectly adequate

Re: Recommended Oil

Posted: Fri Mar 23, 2018 4:37 pm
Author: ZedHead
Incidentally, Ducati's are recommended to use a JASO MB grade oil as they have dry clutches :wink:


Why do you need oil for a dry clutch? I am so confused :??

Re: Recommended Oil

Posted: Fri Mar 23, 2018 5:55 pm
Author: Charlie
ZedHead wrote:
Incidentally, Ducati's are recommended to use a JASO MB grade oil as they have dry clutches :wink:


Why do you need oil for a dry clutch? I am so confused :??


You don't.

They use a JASO MB grade oil BECAUSE they have a dry clutch ..... The oil goes nowhere near the clutch but it does need different properties to an MA grade oil that does go into the clutch :wink:

Re: Recommended Oil

Posted: Sat Mar 24, 2018 12:58 pm
Author: ZedHead
Charlie wrote:
ZedHead wrote:
Incidentally, Ducati's are recommended to use a JASO MB grade oil as they have dry clutches :wink:


Why do you need oil for a dry clutch? I am so confused :??


You don't.

They use a JASO MB grade oil BECAUSE they have a dry clutch ..... The oil goes nowhere near the clutch but it does need different properties to an MA grade oil that does go into the clutch :wink:


Got it Charlie...

MB is the lowest friction oil in the JASO classification. Interesting link you shared thanks.
http://www.jalos.or.jp/onfile/jaso_e-2.htm

Re: Recommended Oil

Posted: Sat Mar 24, 2018 2:04 pm
Author: Charlie
They update their references every month Zedhead.

It's always a good source for checking if oil has actually been certified (like Motul, Motorex, Silkolene etc) or if the manufacturers just claim it likely would do if submitted for testing

One wonders why, when most premium oil companies all submit to the internationally recognised body, that a large manufacturer like Rock do not appear to do so ?

It just says JASO xxx but does not carry the official mark or unique certification number on the product, nor does it appear on any of the JASO listings. Yes there is a small fee involved in getting certification, but is IS only a nominal fee. I would never buy a helmet that was not submitted for official approval, why would I use an oil that has not ?

Hence Rock will never ever go anywhere near any of my motors.