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Re: Carburettor Jets

#16 PostAuthor: ZedHead » Sat Aug 18, 2018 7:44 am

rickm wrote:Fascinating stuff. Not questioning the wisdom of folk who know better than me, but just to continue the discussion....

"The number stamped on a main jet cooresponds to the flow rate of fuel in cc/sec when poored from a height of 50cm. So a 120 will pass 120cc/sec in this calibration test."
That's a heck of a lot of fuel to flow through such a tiny hole. It must be under more pressure than just a 50cm header tank to do that?

"A 10% increase in venturi pressure will draw 10% more fuel. "
I presume that's increase in pressure difference?

Would this all work in a similar way with CV carbs, as on the J ?
I'm guessing it probably would at full throttle.


Feel free to challenge, I am just in research mode :D

That's a heck of a lot of fuel to flow through such a tiny hole. It must be under more pressure than just a 50cm header tank to do that?


Correction, it should read per minute.

I presume that's increase in pressure difference?


Indeed.

Would this all work in a similar way with CV carbs, as on the J ?
I'm guessing it probably would at full throttle.


I cant see why not

Of course all this is only theoretical findings. In practice it might be different.

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Re: Carburettor Jets

#17 PostAuthor: zed1015 » Sat Aug 18, 2018 9:57 am

All I know is from 40 years of practical hands on experience which has served me well enough and while theoretical findings are all well and good they don't allow for the variables of each individual engine, their state of tune, type of exhaust fitted etc.
With a stock 115 main and the over bore i'd start at a 120 main and it'll most likely end up on a 117.5

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Re: Carburettor Jets

#18 PostAuthor: ZedHead » Sat Aug 18, 2018 11:37 am

zed1015 wrote:All I know is from 40 years of practical hands on experience which has served me well enough and while theoretical findings are all well and good they don't allow for the variables of each individual engine, their state of tune, type of exhaust fitted etc.
With a stock 115 main and the over bore i'd start at a 120 main and it'll most likely end up on a 117.5


Can't argue with that :D

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Re: Carburettor Jets

#19 PostAuthor: Wayne1960 » Sat Aug 18, 2018 12:24 pm

Guys Buzzard came to the rescue here

Z900 carbs VM26SS
Main jet 115
Pilot jet 17.5
Needle jet 0-6. Jet needle 5DL31-3
Air jet 1.6
Throttle valve cutaway 1.5
Air screw 1 3/8 turns out

Z1000 carbs VM26SS
Main jet 102.5
Pilot jet 15
Needle jet 0-3
Jet needle 5CN7-4
Throttle valve cutaway 2.0
Air screw. No mention

These are from the 2 Kawasaki service manuals.
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Re: Carburettor Jets

#20 PostAuthor: ZedHead » Sat Aug 18, 2018 1:30 pm

Interesting that the 1000 mains are much smaller. I guess the other jetting changes compensate? Either that or possibly the Z1000 4-2 exhausts are more restrictive than 4-4 z900?

Personally, I would stick it on a Dyno.

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Re: Carburettor Jets

#21 PostAuthor: zed1015 » Sat Aug 18, 2018 1:37 pm

ZedHead wrote:Interesting that the 1000 mains are much smaller. I guess the other jetting changes compensate? .

Smaller main, Smaller pilot but the slide cutaway is bigger which flows more air and draws more fuel per throttle openings.
Swings and roundabouts to get the same result.
Stick with the 900 settings and go up the main unless you like wasting money on changing the entire carbs internals to the 1000 specs.
1000 exhaust is also known to be less free flowing.

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Re: Carburettor Jets

#22 PostAuthor: neilbarrett » Sat Aug 18, 2018 5:22 pm

every motor is differnt ,even the same spec ones .you need to get it set up on a dyno

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Re: Carburettor Jets

#23 PostAuthor: Wayne1960 » Sat Aug 18, 2018 5:58 pm

Seem to be conflicting results here. I guess i should have expected it as you guys are always trying to find the best results.

Great topic though just not sure what to do now.

Has anyone done similar with positive results?
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Re: Carburettor Jets

#24 PostAuthor: zed1015 » Sun Aug 19, 2018 1:39 pm

Wayne1960 wrote:Seem to be conflicting results here. I guess i should have expected it as you guys are always trying to find the best results.

Great topic though just not sure what to do now.

Has anyone done similar with positive results?


Yes! I do this day in day out .
You have only gone to the max stock rebore size so just go up on the mains slightly.
You got 115's fitted ? go straight for 117.5's or start at 120's and then drop to the latter when you find it's too rich.
Simple as that.

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Re: Carburettor Jets

#25 PostAuthor: Wayne1960 » Mon Aug 20, 2018 7:21 pm

hey zed1015
thanks for this. i guess I'm just confused with information i have been reading but take it this is your thing and wouldn't question your advise. So i just need to change out the main jet and nothing else.

ill oder the 2 different sizes.
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Re: Carburettor Jets

#26 PostAuthor: Wayne1960 » Mon Aug 20, 2018 7:33 pm

Zed1015

Where do you get your jets from?
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Re: Carburettor Jets

#27 PostAuthor: zed1015 » Mon Aug 20, 2018 8:18 pm

I just search Ebay and the net for the cheapest price.
Haven't bought any in a while as I already have what I need.
Just make sure you get BRASS jets.
The plastic ones are crap and don't flow the same ( usually less) and are not consistent.
Suppose Allens Performance would be the easiest place to get them without searching.

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Re: Carburettor Jets

#28 PostAuthor: kev edwards » Tue Aug 21, 2018 7:13 am

Wayne1960 wrote:Guys Buzzard came to the rescue here

Z900 carbs VM26SS
Main jet 115
Pilot jet 17.5
Needle jet 0-6. Jet needle 5DL31-3
Air jet 1.6
Throttle valve cutaway 1.5
Air screw 1 3/8 turns out

Z1000 carbs VM26SS
Main jet 102.5
Pilot jet 15
Needle jet 0-3
Jet needle 5CN7-4
Throttle valve cutaway 2.0
Air screw. No mention

These are from the 2 Kawasaki service manuals.


No mention of air screw because Z1000 vm26's have a fuel screw instead, my Z thou 26's have what i posted in earlier post as they have a less restrictive exhaust.

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Re: Carburettor Jets

#29 PostAuthor: ZedHead » Tue Aug 21, 2018 7:20 am

Wayne1960 wrote:Zed1015

Where do you get your jets from?


I can supply genuine Mikuni but agree Allan's for quckness

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Re: Carburettor Jets

#30 PostAuthor: chrisNI » Tue Aug 21, 2018 8:06 am

ZedHead wrote:Interesting that the 1000 mains are much smaller. I guess the other jetting changes compensate? Either that or possibly the Z1000 4-2 exhausts are more restrictive than 4-4 z900?

Personally, I would stick it on a Dyno.



It’s not just the exhaust that restricts but more importantly the air box..


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