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Regulator or rectifier?

#1 PostAuthor: john-meyer » Tue Jun 11, 2019 7:25 pm

Bike-Z1000A1
Problem- Battery shows 9 volts with engine off. Jumps to 12 volts when on tickover but goes DOWN when revs are increased.Neutral light /rear light flicker on tick over, Indicators flash too quickly and battery does not charge. I duspect rectifier but maybe regulator or something else? Any ideas would be appreciated,
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Re: Regulator or rectifier?

#2 PostAuthor: moizeau » Tue Jun 11, 2019 9:02 pm

Have a read through this to get an understanding of how it works a basic tests.

https://www.denniskirk.com/learn/how-to ... motorcycle

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Re: Regulator or rectifier?

#3 PostAuthor: Ultim8pc » Wed Jun 12, 2019 9:02 am

You need to check thee battery and all components of the charge circuit.
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Re: Regulator or rectifier?

#4 PostAuthor: Wrigers » Wed Jun 12, 2019 12:27 pm

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Re: Regulator or rectifier?

#5 PostAuthor: scott » Wed Jun 12, 2019 3:02 pm

Sounds like you might have a battery cell dropping out intermittently. I had this happen on a gel battery once.

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#6 PostAuthor: 8 Valve Mark » Wed Jun 12, 2019 6:59 pm

+1 to Scott's theory, but also worth checking the earth side from the battery too.. good luck. m

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Re: Regulator or rectifier?

#7 PostAuthor: moizeau » Wed Jun 12, 2019 7:10 pm

Can you ride it, if you've got a cell down it will sap the juice from the alt and it will bog down or cut out in my experience, what's the battery like off the bike?
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Re: Regulator or rectifier?

#8 PostAuthor: scott » Wed Jun 12, 2019 8:09 pm

Mine did both, bogged down or cut out.

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Re: Regulator or rectifier?

#9 PostAuthor: john-meyer » Thu Jun 13, 2019 7:45 pm

Thanks all for your help. Today replaced old regulator and rectifier with Z power combined unit.-No change, so did more poking around and removed the flasher and hazard relays-.Now the bike charges and everything ok,except flashers obviously. Borrowed the same two relays from my other Z and everything works ok.I am not bad with electrics but cannot understand how a duff flasher or hazard relay can affect the charge circuit=no wonder people hate electrical problems!!!=just got to find a replacement hazard relay which no one seems to list.Flasher one is no problem.Regards John
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Re: Regulator or rectifier?

#10 PostAuthor: john-meyer » Mon Jun 17, 2019 10:08 pm

Hi all , that was not the end of the story after all! Even with the flasher relay replaced,today still only had 9.6 v at battery.Even with engine running this would only increase marginally but flashers and headlamp were ok.So I fitted a new battery as suggested in your replies and allseems good now. 12.4 volts with engine off.Once the engine starts,12.6 volts,rising up to 13volts after o couple of minutes running and staying there even with main beam on,with engine on fast idle. So with the reg /rectifier replaced and a new battery,any further problems will point to alternator or bad wiring maybe at the four plugs on the sub loom-taking it out for a test ride tomorrow so we shall see!
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Re: Regulator or rectifier?

#11 PostAuthor: scott » Tue Jun 18, 2019 8:00 am

Electrics are so much fun :roll:


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