Minor details z650

[Oggers]

Gents

Nearing completion on the rebuild of the z650. The red paintwork is growing on me now that I have polished and waxed it and fitted the nice shiny bits. Pics coming soon....In the meanwhile, a couple of questions if I may...

First pic shows the clock surround. As can be seen, it is pock-marked with surface corrosion. Incidentally, it is the original enamel? paintwork but I have clearly replaced the pods with chrome. The question is whether to leave as is and keep the original paintwork, or rub it down and respray. If the latter, and I am tending towards that as it looks somewhat incongruous against the rest of the now very nice looking bike, then respray with what? I have black enamel - which I think will be close, or gloss black.

Second pic shows the outlet fuel pipe connection from the petcock to the carbs. You can see the groove. Should there be an o-ring here? If so, it may still be in the petcock body I guess.......

[Julian_Boolean]

Yes there should be an o ring

[warren3200gt]

Originally the clocks where satin black. Simonez tough paint satin black is the go to for original match.
Post a pic ot your fuel tap Oggers. Dont think you have the gravity type off a b1 like below. The feed pipe doesn't come out of these.
Or if thats a pic of the other carb end it should be a T piece.

[Oggers]

Warren

Correct...I don't have a (direct) gravity feed. It's vacuum controlled. Red pipe connects to carbs and provides vacuum on a diaphragm within the petcock thus allowing fuel though the feed pipe - the one with the groove as per previous pic. No vacuum, no fuel, unless the valve is switched to prime at 3 o clock. Safety thing I imagine. The feed connection was pulled as per the pic. No o-ring in the petcock body, and also pretty certain it did not leak when I ran it a while back despite no o-ring. However, the groove is surely indicative of an o-ring? - for which incidentally I have spent the last hour rooting through all my bits searching for one and failed miserably. Could have started it otherwise....

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[warren3200gt]

That explains it. I really dislike those taps, I hear about too many issues with them. If it were my bike I would seal off the vacuum pipe at both ends, use prime as on and on as off. I have the habit of turning off the tap everytime I get off the bike.
Short term fix for no o ring is plumbers ptfe sealing tape.
Ps, your tap needs cleaning

[Oggers]

Hi Warren

Agreed. I am not a fan either. it seems to work though...for now. I too turn the tap off when finished, but clearly not possible here. I don't like the fact the diaphragm could fail if tap is ON or at RES and allow fuel through when the bike is not running. Yes I have PTFE tape, but the local - and very useful garage shop - should have a suitable o-ring. Yes it's rusty, and yes I will clean it up. Cannot have it spoiling things!

Incidentally the clock surround is deffo gloss of some sort - looks enamel to me and original. I actually prefer it to satin against the chrome pods. Leaning towards respraying it...

Pics to follow. Looks far better with the Euro bars, and everything polished up.

[warren3200gt]

Original unrestored clocks from my b1 which I bought new in 77 definately satin.

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[Oggers]

My clock surround as per pic - surely not satin! I also had assurrance from the PO that nothing had been touched from the factory. Herewith also a pic of an ad for my clocks. Looks to have more sheen to it than satin perhaps?

https://www.ebay.co.uk/i/362953607859?c ... gLrBfD_BwE

Moot point though...

[z1bman]

gloss black

[warren3200gt]

650's, Z900 A4/5, Z1000 satin black. Z1, Z1A, Z1B gloss black maybe?

[z1bman]

650's, Z900 A4/5, Z1000 satin black. Z1, Z1A, Z1B gloss black maybe?

they are all the same through z650 z1 z900a4 z1000

[warren3200gt]

My B1 650 I bought new in 77. I have owned it since then. I know what has and hasn't been done to it and the clocks haven't been touched. They are definitely satin not gloss.

[Mjay]

From what I can remember from my Z650 B1 model, the speedo and tachometer bodies were satin black. This also applies to the pods underneath each gauge.

[wheelysteve]

My 1977 B1 has untouched clock surrounds and they are definitely gloss black ??