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Minor details z650
Posted: Fri Sep 11, 2020 12:09 pm
Author: Oggers
Gents
Nearing completion on the rebuild of the z650. The red paintwork is growing on me now that I have polished and waxed it and fitted the nice shiny bits. Pics coming soon....In the meanwhile, a couple of questions if I may...
First pic shows the clock surround. As can be seen, it is pock-marked with surface corrosion. Incidentally, it is the original enamel? paintwork but I have clearly replaced the pods with chrome. The question is whether to leave as is and keep the original paintwork, or rub it down and respray. If the latter, and I am tending towards that as it looks somewhat incongruous against the rest of the now very nice looking bike, then respray with what? I have black enamel - which I think will be close, or gloss black.
Second pic shows the outlet fuel pipe connection from the petcock to the carbs. You can see the groove. Should there be an o-ring here? If so, it may still be in the petcock body I guess.......
Re: Minor details z650
Posted: Fri Sep 11, 2020 12:44 pm
Author: Julian_Boolean
Yes there should be an o ring
Re: Minor details z650
Posted: Fri Sep 11, 2020 1:06 pm
Author: warren3200gt
Originally the clocks where satin black. Simonez tough paint satin black is the go to for original match.
Post a pic ot your fuel tap Oggers. Dont think you have the gravity type off a b1 like below. The feed pipe doesn't come out of these.
Or if thats a pic of the other carb end it should be a T piece.
Re: Minor details z650
Posted: Sat Sep 12, 2020 5:33 pm
Author: Oggers
Warren
Correct...I don't have a (direct) gravity feed. It's vacuum controlled. Red pipe connects to carbs and provides vacuum on a diaphragm within the petcock thus allowing fuel though the feed pipe - the one with the groove as per previous pic. No vacuum, no fuel, unless the valve is switched to prime at 3 o clock. Safety thing I imagine. The feed connection was pulled as per the pic. No o-ring in the petcock body, and also pretty certain it did not leak when I ran it a while back despite no o-ring. However, the groove is surely indicative of an o-ring? - for which incidentally I have spent the last hour rooting through all my bits searching for one and failed miserably. Could have started it otherwise....
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Re: Minor details z650
Posted: Sat Sep 12, 2020 5:52 pm
Author: warren3200gt
That explains it. I really dislike those taps, I hear about too many issues with them. If it were my bike I would seal off the vacuum pipe at both ends, use prime as on and on as off. I have the habit of turning off the tap everytime I get off the bike.
Short term fix for no o ring is plumbers ptfe sealing tape.
Ps, your tap needs cleaning

Re: Minor details z650
Posted: Sat Sep 12, 2020 6:46 pm
Author: Oggers
Hi Warren
Agreed. I am not a fan either. it seems to work though...for now. I too turn the tap off when finished, but clearly not possible here. I don't like the fact the diaphragm could fail if tap is ON or at RES and allow fuel through when the bike is not running. Yes I have PTFE tape, but the local - and very useful garage shop - should have a suitable o-ring. Yes it's rusty, and yes I will clean it up. Cannot have it spoiling things!
Incidentally the clock surround is deffo gloss of some sort - looks enamel to me and original. I actually prefer it to satin against the chrome pods. Leaning towards respraying it...
Pics to follow. Looks far better with the Euro bars, and everything polished up.
Re: Minor details z650
Posted: Sat Sep 12, 2020 6:54 pm
Author: warren3200gt
Original unrestored clocks from my b1 which I bought new in 77 definately satin.

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Re: Minor details z650
Posted: Sat Sep 12, 2020 8:32 pm
Author: Oggers
My clock surround as per pic - surely not satin! I also had assurrance from the PO that nothing had been touched from the factory. Herewith also a pic of an ad for my clocks. Looks to have more sheen to it than satin perhaps?
https://www.ebay.co.uk/i/362953607859?c ... gLrBfD_BwEMoot point though...
Re: Minor details z650
Posted: Sun Sep 13, 2020 4:06 am
Author: z1bman
gloss black
Re: Minor details z650
Posted: Sun Sep 13, 2020 7:13 am
Author: warren3200gt
650's, Z900 A4/5, Z1000 satin black. Z1, Z1A, Z1B gloss black maybe?
Re: Minor details z650
Posted: Sun Sep 13, 2020 8:24 am
Author: z1bman
warren3200gt wrote:650's, Z900 A4/5, Z1000 satin black. Z1, Z1A, Z1B gloss black maybe?
they are all the same through z650 z1 z900a4 z1000
Re: Minor details z650
Posted: Sun Sep 13, 2020 8:43 am
Author: warren3200gt
My B1 650 I bought new in 77. I have owned it since then. I know what has and hasn't been done to it and the clocks haven't been touched. They are definitely satin not gloss.
Re: Minor details z650
Posted: Tue Sep 15, 2020 8:41 pm
Author: Mjay
From what I can remember from my Z650 B1 model, the speedo and tachometer bodies were satin black. This also applies to the pods underneath each gauge.
Re: Minor details z650
Posted: Wed Sep 16, 2020 8:47 am
Author: wheelysteve
My 1977 B1 has untouched clock surrounds and they are definitely gloss black ??