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Another boring question about Z1 date codes

#1 PostAuthor: Z1streetfighter71 » Wed Jan 10, 2024 8:31 am

Iv searched high and low for all this on here and elsewhere otherwise i wouldn't ask such a re-hashed question but aside from exhaust, rotors, wheels, switches and rear brake stay and the printed codes on hubs, where are all the date codes. I have a caliper that has a date stamped into it "N2" and a front master that has "113" Aside from stamped parts i have Z1 forks that either have cast numbers on them or dont. MAybe we can start a definitive thread that outlines all stamps and cast numbers? thanks for the help in advance lads.
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Re: Another boring question about Z1 date codes

#2 PostAuthor: z2.john » Wed Jan 10, 2024 11:18 am

These are not date codes but the assembler's identifier stamp for quality purposes. When for example, your caliper was assembled, he would stamp his N2 mark as the assembler so if there was a problem they would know the guilty party.
If you were to find NOS parts for these individual items (say the caliper body which is where it is stamped), you wont see any stamp code

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Re: Another boring question about Z1 date codes

#3 PostAuthor: Z1streetfighter71 » Wed Jan 10, 2024 8:02 pm

z2.john wrote:These are not date codes but the assembler's identifier stamp for quality purposes. When for example, your caliper was assembled, he would stamp his N2 mark as the assembler so if there was a problem they would know the guilty party.
If you were to find NOS parts for these individual items (say the caliper body which is where it is stamped), you wont see any stamp code



Ahhh thanks for that John, you seem to be in the know, so its safe to say that can be used on a 75 as much as a 73 or 74.

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Re: Another boring question about Z1 date codes

#4 PostAuthor: z2.john » Wed Jan 10, 2024 10:38 pm

Yes you can.
By the way, you mentioned about fork legs with a number cast into them. This will be the number 2 I assume you are referring too? These 'number 2' forks were only found on Z1B.
The number/letter stamp by the axle mount is same as my earlier post (assemblers stamp ID)

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#5 PostAuthor: Z1streetfighter71 » Fri Jan 12, 2024 10:50 pm

z2.john wrote:Yes you can.
By the way, you mentioned about fork legs with a number cast into them. This will be the number 2 I assume you are referring too? These 'number 2' forks were only found on Z1B.
The number/letter stamp by the axle mount is same as my earlier post (assemblers stamp ID)
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Ah yes thats what i was wondering, so would the forks with no markings be for the 1974 so, i know the 73 had bullet shape fender mounts not flush. Speaking of the 73, I have the thin wall points cover, thats is for the 73 only right?

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Re: Another boring question about Z1 date codes

#6 PostAuthor: z2.john » Sat Jan 13, 2024 8:48 am

Z1streetfighter71 wrote:Ah yes thats what i was wondering, so would the forks with no markings be for the 1974 so, i know the 73 had bullet shape fender mounts not flush. Speaking of the 73, I have the thin wall points cover, thats is for the 73 only right?

Only early Z1 had the 'bullet' as you say. No marked forks could be for 73 or 74.
The thin cover was on all Z1 to Z1B. They are marked -1 or -2 on the inner side. Ironically the -2 is lighter than the -1

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Re: Another boring question about Z1 date codes

#7 PostAuthor: Z1streetfighter71 » Sat Jan 13, 2024 7:21 pm

z2.john wrote:
Z1streetfighter71 wrote:Ah yes thats what i was wondering, so would the forks with no markings be for the 1974 so, i know the 73 had bullet shape fender mounts not flush. Speaking of the 73, I have the thin wall points cover, thats is for the 73 only right?

Only early Z1 had the 'bullet' as you say. No marked forks could be for 73 or 74.
The thin cover was on all Z1 to Z1B. They are marked -1 or -2 on the inner side. Ironically the -2 is lighter than the -1


John you know you sh1t sir, cover has a "2" under the "made in Japan", was thinking that it was lighter than any i have ever held. So one set of forks i have then are early forks.. good to know. Is there a book or reference i can get with all this, Its fascinating to know.

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Re: Another boring question about Z1 date codes

#8 PostAuthor: Al » Sat Jan 13, 2024 9:47 pm

I'm probably wrong but i think this may be Johns' book. Perhaps he can confirm.

https://www.z-power.co.uk/z1-parts-book-by-john-brooks
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Re: Another boring question about Z1 date codes

#9 PostAuthor: Z1streetfighter71 » Sun Jan 14, 2024 9:14 am

Al wrote:I'm probably wrong but i think this may be Johns' book. Perhaps he can confirm.

https://www.z-power.co.uk/z1-parts-book-by-john-brooks
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I went looking for that book a while back, sold out where ever I looked, looks like the bible of parts.

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Re: Another boring question about Z1 date codes

#10 PostAuthor: z2.john » Sun Jan 14, 2024 10:44 am

Al wrote:I'm probably wrong but i think this may be Johns' book. Perhaps he can confirm.

https://www.z-power.co.uk/z1-parts-book-by-john-brooks
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Yes, It is my book. I have a handful of copies left, £50 inc the shipping cost to UK addresses

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Re: Another boring question about Z1 date codes

#11 PostAuthor: Z1streetfighter71 » Mon Jan 15, 2024 11:03 am

z2.john wrote:
Al wrote:I'm probably wrong but i think this may be Johns' book. Perhaps he can confirm.

https://www.z-power.co.uk/z1-parts-book-by-john-brooks
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Yes, It is my book. I have a handful of copies left, £50 inc the shipping cost to UK addresses


Pm sent with address, thanks again John!

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Re: Another boring question about Z1 date codes

#12 PostAuthor: Z1streetfighter71 » Mon Jan 15, 2024 3:26 pm

For fear of taking the piss with your time John, i was wondering if you can throw an eye on the pics below, while im kinda sure this is an early style 72 bullet fork lower in not certain, The seller is a big motor breakers and this is the best photos i have iv asked for better ones but no joy. I have the left side and would love to pair it up.
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Re: Another boring question about Z1 date codes

#13 PostAuthor: Z1streetfighter71 » Mon Jan 15, 2024 3:36 pm

The one I have taken from the same angle is a bit more obvious but that maybe down to light and corrosion.
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Re: Another boring question about Z1 date codes

#14 PostAuthor: Z1streetfighter71 » Mon Jan 22, 2024 12:04 pm

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