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Oh dear what a mess

Posted: Sun Jan 23, 2022 4:56 pm
Author: Neilzed
Hi all, i am a very recent member and have bought a Z1000j with a GPZ1100B1 engine, well thats what i thought. Now this poor Zed has apparently been sitting outside and very unloved for nearly 20 years, and is in a very poor condition. I thought i would see if the engine would turn over by hand [i admit i bought it unseen , with only a couple of photos to go by]. It would turn over a bit then stop with a clunk, oops !. Ok time to see what is up with it, all the spark plugs snapped off [well rusted into the head, i used heat and penetrating oil with no luck].Not a good sign of things to come, i then tried to remove the exhaust, took me hours as it had rusted onto the head and the alloy retainers wouldnt budge. Ok now for the fun, i removed the head and found number 3 exhaust valve head sitting on top of the piston, but no sign of damage to the piston crown or head [mystery that one] and number1 exhaust valve seized , well that explained why the engine wouldnt turn over fully as the valve head with 15mm of stem was jamming against the head. The head is a Z1000J with gpz1100b cams, i dont know the state of the rest of the engine yet, that fun is to come [wish me luck].
So i am looking for either a Z1000j or GPZ1100B1 Head, if anybody has one for sale then please let me know, thanks. :roll: Neil

Re: Oh dear what a mess

Posted: Sun Jan 23, 2022 5:12 pm
Author: Philippe
Hi Neil

seems to me that you don't need a Gpz1100B1 cylinderhead ( the one with the holes for the fuel injectors) A Z1000J or Gpz1100 B2 head will do the job.
You can also use a ZX1100A ( Gpz1100 UT) head but keep in mind that those have the valve shims under the buckets.
Put some pictures on here because one image says more than a thousand words.
I would check the valve stems to see if they're not bent.
There's a lot of work waiting for you but I'm sure you can manage it.
GrtZ
Philippe

Re: Oh dear what a mess

Posted: Sun Jan 23, 2022 10:36 pm
Author: zed1015
Philippe wrote:Hi Neil
You can also use a ZX1100A ( Gpz1100 UT) head but keep in mind that those have the valve shims under the buckets.
GrtZ
Philippe

The 1100A Unitrack bathtub head also has a steeper exhaust valve angle so the valve relief in the piston needs modifying for clearance.

Re: Oh dear what a mess

Posted: Mon Jan 24, 2022 5:07 am
Author: Philippe
Yes, you're absolutely correct zed1015!
I didn't thought of that.
GrtZ
Philippe

Re: Oh dear what a mess

Posted: Mon Jan 24, 2022 8:18 am
Author: baz
shall we have a competition to find something Rob doesn't know :D

Re: Oh dear what a mess

Posted: Sun Feb 06, 2022 1:06 pm
Author: Neilzed
Hi again, i have attached some photos of "Private Pile" as my wife has named it. As you can see it isnt very pretty, but i can see potential. :sf :sf :sf :sf :) Neil

Re: Oh dear what a mess

Posted: Sun Feb 06, 2022 1:51 pm
Author: Philippe
Hi Neilzed

it's a "private pile" with a lot of potential, see it as a challenge, don't get discouraged by a rusty frame or an engine that needs to be resprayed.
You'll get there in the end, one piece at the time!
I've restored worse than that.
Good luck
Philippe

Re: Oh dear what a mess

Posted: Sun Feb 06, 2022 1:59 pm
Author: Neilzed
Thanks for the positive comment.
Fortunately i can see through the rust and general poor appearance, just have to find the time to tackle it. I will post more photos as i progress .
Cheers, Neil.

Re: Oh dear what a mess

Posted: Thu May 05, 2022 7:21 pm
Author: willemz900
Hi Neil how is the bike going on?

Re: Oh dear what a mess

Posted: Sat May 07, 2022 9:11 am
Author: Paulb
Hi Neil
You have got a bit of work on there!
But I always feel it's better than spending your evenings in front of the tv!

Re: Oh dear what a mess

Posted: Fri Jun 03, 2022 4:10 pm
Author: Neilzed
Thanks for the comments. I still havnt started work on it as yet , mainly due to having another bike which is in the process of being rebuilt and restored, no its not Kawasaki, it is a Suzuki GSX1100EZ :eek , which is a 1 0wner UK bike 25k miles, stood since 1992 and only made for 1 year and pretty rare, i even have the original sales invoice with it. This should be completed by summer and then i can concentrate on Private Pile. :ghostface