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Tell me how this can be!!!

#1 PostAuthor: warren3200gt » Fri Oct 23, 2020 8:25 pm

someone asked me to take a look at their tacho issue. Bike is a 650 with points ignition. Tach is a straight 3 wire jobbie. Live, earth and signal.
As expected due to wasted spark tach reads 50% of actual revs. No problem I think, take a signal from both coils with diodes inline to stop feedback. Double the pulses equals double the reading I think. But no, it actually halved the reading further.
How the hell does that happen?
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Re: Tell me how this can be!!!

#2 PostAuthor: kev edwards » Sat Oct 24, 2020 7:07 am

You've looked, foobared, now give it back, :biggrin , dark art is those electronics.

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Re: Tell me how this can be!!!

#3 PostAuthor: warren3200gt » Sat Oct 24, 2020 8:06 am

Kinda heading that direction Kev, alternatively, swop the pos and neg. It'll either work and double the reading or go bang. Etherway it would be a win. :D
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Re: Tell me how this can be!!!

#4 PostAuthor: needaz1100r » Fri Oct 30, 2020 5:37 pm

warren3200gt wrote:someone asked me to take a look at their tacho issue. Bike is a 650 with points ignition. Tach is a straight 3 wire jobbie. Live, earth and signal.
As expected due to wasted spark tach reads 50% of actual revs. No problem I think, take a signal from both coils with diodes inline to stop feedback. Double the pulses equals double the reading I think. But no, it actually halved the reading further.
How the hell does that happen?


Do the revs on the tacho increase as bike revs increase?

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Re: Tell me how this can be!!!

#5 PostAuthor: warren3200gt » Fri Oct 30, 2020 6:02 pm

Yes it does. Just confused about with one coil wired it halves the actual revs, which is to be expected, but with 2 coils connected i.e., doubling the pulses, it halves it even further. Made no sense.
However, after further investigation and adding a 1m ohm resistor inline not only did it smooth the pulse reading it corrected the double halving.
Kinda goes against everything I know about lectrickery which I admit isn't much!
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