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Re: Z1000 LTD to standard

#76 PostAuthor: Hard Road » Sun Nov 17, 2024 6:29 pm

DeadZedDave wrote:Not a wrong choice ! It looks just like the tyres they rolled out of the dealers showroom with when they were new - and thats why most people changed them pretty quickly ...... they don't last long anyway HaHa.
Upgrading the front callipers can make a big difference - if you're not to bothered about a traditional look, a pair of twin pots from a ZX10 (also found on a load of other Kawasaki's of that period) can easily be adapted with some (hardly visible) adaptor plates to run with the 277mm LTD discs. These give a heck of a lot more brake - easily enough for that skinny front tyre !


nice one, I'll look into then callipers, cheers Dave. I do have a pair of 4 pots of a 1200 bandit but not offered them up yet. but might look a bit out of place :??

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Re: Z1000 LTD to standard

#77 PostAuthor: DeadZedDave » Sun Nov 17, 2024 6:52 pm

Disc spacing is a bit close to the spokes - not sure if theres enough space for the inner pots to clear ? If you've got some already it costs nothing to check ! I think if memory serves I tried some ZZR 4 pots but ended up with the earlier floating 2 pot for clearance..... its a long time ago now.... Those ZX10 type callipers can be bought fairly cheaply - they're on loads of models. I put 4 pots on the bike with ZZR wheels though and those brakes were just "better"

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Re: Z1000 LTD to standard

#78 PostAuthor: Hard Road » Sun Nov 17, 2024 7:25 pm

DeadZedDave wrote:Disc spacing is a bit close to the spokes - not sure if theres enough space for the inner pots to clear ? If you've got some already it costs nothing to check ! I think if memory serves I tried some ZZR 4 pots but ended up with the earlier floating 2 pot for clearance..... its a long time ago now.... Those ZX10 type callipers can be bought fairly cheaply - they're on loads of models. I put 4 pots on the bike with ZZR wheels though and those brakes were just "better"


I was just wondering about larger disc's, is their any that have the same mounting holes ?

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Re: Z1000 LTD to standard

#79 PostAuthor: Hard Road » Sun Nov 17, 2024 7:38 pm


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Re: Z1000 LTD to standard

#80 PostAuthor: DeadZedDave » Sun Nov 17, 2024 8:21 pm

Tyre should be spot on !
Re: Discs; Z/Kz 1000 A1/2 /3 /4 - C1/2/3/4 - D1/2 - G - H - all have bigger c300mm disc WITH SAME 4 Bolt mount.
1000E is NOT SAME
1000B1/2/3/4 - all SAME 4 Bolt as 1000A but most use 277mm disc.
277 disc (same) used on Z650C/D
HOWEVER heres something to think about Gpz1100B2/ Unitack / 1000Rx /Gpz900 and many other later high performance Kawasakis all used a 278 mm front disc.
Kawasaki clearly decided 300 mm was not needed - as did some of the racers in the 70's - food for thought
The callipers / adapters I mentioned work with the 277/278mm discs

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Re: Z1000 LTD to standard

#81 PostAuthor: Hard Road » Sun Nov 17, 2024 9:12 pm

DeadZedDave wrote:Tyre should be spot on !
Re: Discs; Z/Kz 1000 A1/2 /3 /4 - C1/2/3/4 - D1/2 - G - H - all have bigger c300mm disc WITH SAME 4 Bolt mount.
1000E is NOT SAME
1000B1/2/3/4 - all SAME 4 Bolt as 1000A but most use 277mm disc.
277 disc (same) used on Z650C/D
HOWEVER heres something to think about Gpz1100B2/ Unitack / 1000Rx /Gpz900 and many other later high performance Kawasakis all used a 278 mm front disc.
Kawasaki clearly decided 300 mm was not needed - as did some of the racers in the 70's - food for thought
The callipers / adapters I mentioned work with the 277/278mm discs


spot on, thanks bud :wink:

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Re: Z1000 LTD to standard

#82 PostAuthor: DeadZedDave » Sun Nov 17, 2024 9:52 pm

B.T.W. if you switch to bigger discs you need the fork bottoms to match - the calliper mounting lugs are not in the same place....

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Re: Z1000 LTD to standard

#83 PostAuthor: Hard Road » Sun Nov 17, 2024 10:09 pm

DeadZedDave wrote:B.T.W. if you switch to bigger discs you need the fork bottoms to match - the calliper mounting lugs are not in the same place....


something to think about in the new year, not gona get much riding in for a few months :( the pads in the brakes atm are new so still need bedding in, its just the fact i can't 2 finger brake :roll: not used to it !!!!!

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Re: Z1000 LTD to standard

#84 PostAuthor: DeadZedDave » Sun Nov 17, 2024 10:32 pm

New tyre on in plenty of time for spring and a few more miles to bed the pads in.... meantime
https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/387372361770 ... gKEHvD_BwE

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Re: Z1000 LTD to standard

#85 PostAuthor: Hard Road » Mon Nov 18, 2024 1:14 am

Lol i dont think that'll help my reumatoid arthritis :sad

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Re: Z1000 LTD to standard

#86 PostAuthor: DeadZedDave » Mon Nov 18, 2024 10:26 am

It could have been worse..... you could have started off with a Z1 and a single disc ! Hard frost this morning and snow on the way ! Not good for arthritis - or old bikes. Look forward to spring and warmer weather....

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Re: Z1000 LTD to standard

#87 PostAuthor: Hard Road » Mon Nov 18, 2024 11:42 am

DeadZedDave wrote:It could have been worse..... you could have started off with a Z1 and a single disc ! Hard frost this morning and snow on the way ! Not good for arthritis - or old bikes. Look forward to spring and warmer weather....


lol, i think the guys who ride with a single calliper up front are hero's (or insane !!!) :lol: i suppose its what you are used too, me ive always had excellent front brakes.
I live next to the Irish sea on a small Island so don't get much snow, too bloody cold to ride though :(

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Re: Z1000 LTD to standard

#88 PostAuthor: DeadZedDave » Mon Nov 18, 2024 7:30 pm

This might be more useful;

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Poor quality pictures I know but hopefully enough to explain.
Discs here are 275mm Suzuki (as I guess you'll recognise). Front fork is z1000A. Calliper is ZX10.
The disc spacing has been reduced / narrowed to match the standard z1000 disc spacing.
The set up including adaptor plates was first made to use with Kawasaki GPz 750A ZX Unitrack 3 spoke wheels and 278mm discs from 1100 Unitrack.
The Astralites with Suzuki discs "narrowed" bolted straight in. (obviously some jiggery - pokery to sort the spindle out !)
You could replicate this set up and use it with the standard Z1000 front wheel with 277mm (LTD) discs which you have. N.B. Fork bottoms in pic are 1000A - you have 1000B so the mounting bolt positions for bolting the adaptor plate to the fork need to be in a slightly different position from ones in the picture.
Its a VERY simple adaptor - no tapped holes and only accurate drilling required.
Hopefully you can just about spot the lower edge of a flat 5mm thick steel plate sandwiched between the ZX10 calliper carrier bracket (bit with holes visible in pic) and the z1000 fork leg lugs.
Short bolts (cut down) go through the adaptor plate and thread into standard mounting holes in the calliper carrier bracket.
Long bolts (I used sprocket carrier bolts) go in from the back / disc side of the fork leg - through the adaptor plate first then through the fork leg lugs with nuts on the outside (I used standard Zed cylinder head nuts). Need to go in before the wheel !
All thats needed is a flat plate cut out to a simple profile to clear the calliper body and with 4 holes accurately drilled in the right places.
I started off with a thin alloy plate and made a template to check the alignment / fit and when it was right, transferred the shape / holes onto the steel.
A couple of 1mm thick washers were needed to get spacing / alignment (each side between calliper carrier bracket and adaptor plate if memory serves) but this should be easy to figure out when it bolts together.
Simple.
These work great.
I would expect you'd find this is all you need on an old Zed with skinny tyres.
Total cost: less than £100 I'd say.
ALSO 100% reversible - just bolt the old set up back in place if needs be.

Nice part of the world to live by the way. Coast road Rampside to Conishead used to be good so far as I remember..... but it was a very long time ago !

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Re: Z1000 LTD to standard

#89 PostAuthor: Hard Road » Mon Nov 18, 2024 8:33 pm

great thanks again Dave, will save the pic's.
yep the coast road i know like the back of my hand, when i do a short run its from my house then up the coast road to Ulverston and back down the main road, not a big run but about 25 miles. sometimes with my R/A i can't ride for to long so thats my route. not much i know but getting out on a bike is better than sitting their looking at it :D

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Re: Z1000 LTD to standard

#90 PostAuthor: DeadZedDave » Tue Nov 19, 2024 3:15 pm

If you can get a run out when the weathers fine then just keep at it. 25 miles on an old Zed is probably enough for most of us anyway - none of us getting any younger !


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