Hello Guest User,

Please feel free to have a look around the forum but be aware that as an unregistered guest you can't see all of it and you can't post.

To access these 'Registered Users Only' areas simply register and login.

Indicator electrical gremlins..

Need help restoring, building, or finding then try here.

Moderators: KeithZ1R, chrisu, paul doran, Taffus

Message
Author
User avatar
JohnC
100Club
100Club
Posts: 229
Joined: 23rd Dec 2007
Location: Ayrshire, Scotland

Indicator electrical gremlins..

#1 PostAuthor: JohnC » Sat Jul 13, 2019 4:57 pm

Hi all, I remember when I took my bike (Z1000A1) off the road a year or so back that when I was out on the last run the right hand indicator stopped flashing. I though it must just have been the flasher relay and ordered up a new one.

I fitted it today along with a new fully charged get battery and now none of the indicators flash, they light up but no flashing. Also I noticed when I switch on the headlamp the brake on indicator lights up. Headlamp works, both dip and high, and the brake light works as it should. Earthing problem?

I remember I had a few problems getting everything working previously as the headlight wiring was like a rats nest. Electrics is my real weak points so any tips on finding a solution, diagrams of what wire shout go where much appreciated!!

My previous experience of electrical repair 'experts' is that they never seem to find a solution and charge you ££££££ :eek

Thanks

John

User avatar
Pigford
I'm on prescription!!
Posts: 10180
Joined: 2nd Jan 2006
Location: North Dorset

Re: Indicator electrical gremlins..

#2 PostAuthor: Pigford » Sat Jul 13, 2019 5:47 pm

Probably not your specific issue - BUT - the other day my winkers stopped working, out of the blue?

Turned out (sic) there was a dodgy join in the handlebar switch.... the centre solder joint had broken, so I stripped it down and resoldered it - all good now!
And on the 7th day... Zeds were created!

User avatar
ZedHead
Hardcore
Hardcore
Posts: 2606
Joined: 9th May 2009
Location: Darlington
Contact:

Re: Indicator electrical gremlins..

#3 PostAuthor: ZedHead » Sat Jul 13, 2019 6:57 pm

It sounds like your wiring is in a bit of a mess. Seek some help if you are not good with electrics. Try contacting Iain Marshall he may know of a member not far from you that can help.

User avatar
z1bman
Hardcore
Hardcore
Posts: 4245
Joined: 3rd Mar 2010
Location: WORDSLEY WEST MIDLANDS

Re: Indicator electrical gremlins..

#4 PostAuthor: z1bman » Sat Jul 13, 2019 7:50 pm

does it have a halogen headlight ?

User avatar
JohnC
100Club
100Club
Posts: 229
Joined: 23rd Dec 2007
Location: Ayrshire, Scotland

Re: Indicator electrical gremlins..

#5 PostAuthor: JohnC » Sun Jul 14, 2019 12:22 pm

No, just the normal headlight. Yes wiring could be better, it's all original as far as I know so might just be a process of elimination.

User avatar
ZedHead
Hardcore
Hardcore
Posts: 2606
Joined: 9th May 2009
Location: Darlington
Contact:

Re: Indicator electrical gremlins..

#6 PostAuthor: ZedHead » Sun Jul 14, 2019 4:32 pm

JohnC wrote:No, just the normal headlight. Yes wiring could be better, it's all original as far as I know so might just be a process of elimination.


As Pigford suggests the handlebar switch is a good place to start. Take it off and check for corrosion or shorts, bear in mind shorts could be to the bars. Also check any multi-connectors from the switch and around the yoke.

40 year old looms often cause problems, fortunately for your bike they are relatively cheap to replace with modern, reliable wiring.

The preparation manual has a diagram that might help.

https://www.dropbox.com/s/kryzwr5to2m4d ... lyprep.pdf

User avatar
z1bman
Hardcore
Hardcore
Posts: 4245
Joined: 3rd Mar 2010
Location: WORDSLEY WEST MIDLANDS

Re: Indicator electrical gremlins..

#7 PostAuthor: z1bman » Sun Jul 14, 2019 5:31 pm

the main thing to check is the earths as they are all connected together in the main harness & often break with the movement of the harness when turning the handlebars you will need to open up the harness about 10 inches back from where the wiring enters the headlight shell

Julian_Boolean
Custard Cream
Custard Cream
Posts: 630
Joined: 20th Oct 2016
Location: Ipswich

Re: Indicator electrical gremlins..

#8 PostAuthor: Julian_Boolean » Mon Jul 15, 2019 8:27 am

Sounds like a bad earth.
An expanding collection of parts pretending to be a Z1100R and a Yamaha FZ750

User avatar
ADRIAN H
Hardcore
Hardcore
Posts: 3632
Joined: 21st Mar 2009
Location: The Brunswick, Charminster. Bmth

Re: Indicator electrical gremlins..

#9 PostAuthor: ADRIAN H » Mon Jul 15, 2019 8:45 am

Always thought the Earth for the handle bar switches was - The Handle Bar itself.
Who are you to judge the life I live.
I know I’m not perfect and I don’t live to be.
But before you start pointing fingers make sure your hands are clean - Jimi Hendrix.

User avatar
z1bman
Hardcore
Hardcore
Posts: 4245
Joined: 3rd Mar 2010
Location: WORDSLEY WEST MIDLANDS

Re: Indicator electrical gremlins..

#10 PostAuthor: z1bman » Mon Jul 15, 2019 9:21 am

ADRIAN H wrote:Always thought the Earth for the handle bar switches was - The Handle Bar itself.


they are but every lamp has its own individual eath

User avatar
JohnC
100Club
100Club
Posts: 229
Joined: 23rd Dec 2007
Location: Ayrshire, Scotland

Re: Indicator electrical gremlins..

#11 PostAuthor: JohnC » Mon Jul 15, 2019 1:02 pm

Thanks all, your comments give me a few things to try, much appreciated.

moizeau
Regular Poster
Posts: 60
Joined: 3rd May 2019
Location: France

Re: Indicator electrical gremlins..

#12 PostAuthor: moizeau » Mon Jul 15, 2019 5:15 pm

Couple of croc clips on a length of wire to test the circuits with an extra earth.
Pete


Return to “Bike Help”

Who is online

Users browsing this forum: No registered users and 8 guests