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Oil leak through the ignition side

#1 PostAuthor: RussG » Thu Jul 06, 2023 8:12 am

Hi,
Got to the point where I got my Z1000A1 rebuild running, lost of build oil smoke and all sorts, then noticed a positive oil leak from behind the ignition plate. I suspect the crank oil seal. The question is does anyone have a suggestion for strategy to fix it? Seal is new and fitted during rebuild but can I replace it without removing the engine? Could the leak be from anywhere or caused by anything else?
I’ll check all bolts are tight first before resorting to stripping
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Re: Oil leak through the ignition side

#2 PostAuthor: warren3200gt » Thu Jul 06, 2023 8:27 am

Never tried it so not sure how effective it would be but have heard they can be pulled out by putting a few self tappers through the seal then easing it out with grips on the self tappers.

Ps is your picture reversed?

Doh, what Rob said above :oops: was thinking 650.
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Re: Oil leak through the ignition side

#3 PostAuthor: zed1015 » Thu Jul 06, 2023 8:35 am

There are no oil seals on the actual engine crankcases, at the ign side or anywhere else.
The oil seal is in the ignition housing which is bolted on by 6 screws.
Simply remove the ignition backplate, atd and then the housing to fit a new seal.
If there's oil from behind the housing it can only be the housing gasket .

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Re: Oil leak through the ignition side

#4 PostAuthor: zed1015 » Thu Jul 06, 2023 8:36 am

warren3200gt wrote:
Ps is your picture reversed?

The engine is upside down .

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Re: Oil leak through the ignition side

#5 PostAuthor: warren3200gt » Thu Jul 06, 2023 8:39 am

I NEED MORE COFFEE!
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Re: Oil leak through the ignition side

#6 PostAuthor: wilsonsjw11 » Thu Jul 06, 2023 9:21 am

Was a genuine new seal fitted to the ignition housing?
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Re: Oil leak through the ignition side

#7 PostAuthor: RussG » Thu Jul 06, 2023 10:57 am

Thanks guys, not so panicked now. The seal was out of a gasket kit I think, gasket kit was genuine, I did buy a wrong kit as well so hoping I’ll have a spare
Of course, just saying this hoping there might be another way, I have to take the stator cover off the other end of the crank to release the rotor on the electronic ignition….

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Re: Oil leak through the ignition side

#8 PostAuthor: zed1015 » Thu Jul 06, 2023 11:07 am

RussG wrote: I have to take the stator cover off the other end of the crank to release the rotor on the electronic ignition….
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Why do you need to remove the stator cover ??
It has nothing to do with the ignition side..

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Re: Oil leak through the ignition side

#9 PostAuthor: RussG » Thu Jul 06, 2023 8:11 pm

To lock the crank off with a spanner on the bolt so I can undo the one holding the ignition rotor on?
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Re: Oil leak through the ignition side

#10 PostAuthor: zed1015 » Thu Jul 06, 2023 8:20 pm

RussG wrote:To lock the crank off with a spanner on the bolt so I can undo the one holding the ignition rotor on?

There's no need for that .
You use the 17mm nut that's keyed to the crank behind the 12mm bolt that holds the rotor on.
Use a spanner on the nut and a socket on the bolt.
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Re: Oil leak through the ignition side

#11 PostAuthor: z1bman » Thu Jul 06, 2023 9:36 pm

You don't need to remove the the engine cover just use a pick tool to pull out the seal then lubricate the new seal with smear of grease & tap the seal into the cover. i have done it hundreds of times . ps you may have dislodged the tension spring from the seal when you installed the engine cover & Kawasaki don't do a gasket kit they only list individual gaskets & seals

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Re: Oil leak through the ignition side

#12 PostAuthor: RussG » Sun Jul 09, 2023 3:20 am

Thank you once again, I had missed the oil seal, fixed in 5 minutes. Undid the stator cover expecting a dose of oil to run out as well but nothing so guess I got it all right that side

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