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Z1000st Project
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Re: Z1000st Project
Might be worth checking this dimension just in case as there is one in that area.
17. PIN,6X16 92042-016
17. PIN,6X16 92042-016
"Set the GRINDER on it"
Re: Z1000st Project
Hi Simonic
that "little fellow" can come from a few different places: the pin that keeps the kickstarter shaft in place, one of the five pins of the cranckshaft, one of the pins that keeps the cages of the roller bearings of the input or the output shaft in place.
These are all situated in the upper cranckcase. If one of them dropped out, take a dowel, place it on the side of the gap where the pin should be and give a gentle tap on the dowel with a hammer. Put the pin back in the hole afterwards and make sure it stays out about 5 mm.
As far as the broken output shaft is concerned: don't mind, it's common. It's one of the weak spots of the ST.
If you can find a complete shaft, replace the one in your engine, if not, find someone who can work with a lathe.
Let him drill a hole in the shaft, make a thread in it (M10) and use an M10 allen bolt to secure the coupling of the drive shaft. (Take a look at how it's done in one of my previous projects; I think there's a picture)
Your ST will also work without the nut in place. The coupling is held in place by the strong spring.
Good luck!
GrtZ
Philippe
that "little fellow" can come from a few different places: the pin that keeps the kickstarter shaft in place, one of the five pins of the cranckshaft, one of the pins that keeps the cages of the roller bearings of the input or the output shaft in place.
These are all situated in the upper cranckcase. If one of them dropped out, take a dowel, place it on the side of the gap where the pin should be and give a gentle tap on the dowel with a hammer. Put the pin back in the hole afterwards and make sure it stays out about 5 mm.
As far as the broken output shaft is concerned: don't mind, it's common. It's one of the weak spots of the ST.
If you can find a complete shaft, replace the one in your engine, if not, find someone who can work with a lathe.
Let him drill a hole in the shaft, make a thread in it (M10) and use an M10 allen bolt to secure the coupling of the drive shaft. (Take a look at how it's done in one of my previous projects; I think there's a picture)
Your ST will also work without the nut in place. The coupling is held in place by the strong spring.
Good luck!
GrtZ
Philippe
the differences between a little boy and an adult man is the price and size of their toys!
Re: Z1000st Project
Thank You also Phillippe.
I felt sure you would have some good input for me.
The engine is now out and i will be delivering it to my engine builder next monday
I felt sure you would have some good input for me.
The engine is now out and i will be delivering it to my engine builder next monday
'83 ZX1100 '81 Z1000ST, '04 GSX1400, '19 Dodge Challenger Hemi
Re: Z1000st Project
Hi Simonic
do you have the dimensions of the "little fellow"?
If it comes out of the front bevel gear case it might be the little pin to hold the drive schaft on the front bevel gear case. It all depends upon the dimensions and in this case: size matters! If it's very small you have an identification of your "little fellow" if not, keep searching.
GrtZ
Philippe
do you have the dimensions of the "little fellow"?
If it comes out of the front bevel gear case it might be the little pin to hold the drive schaft on the front bevel gear case. It all depends upon the dimensions and in this case: size matters! If it's very small you have an identification of your "little fellow" if not, keep searching.
GrtZ
Philippe
the differences between a little boy and an adult man is the price and size of their toys!
Re: Z1000st Project
Hi Phillippe.
it is very small.I'll take another pic when i get home next to a tape measure.
Thank You Sir
it is very small.I'll take another pic when i get home next to a tape measure.
Thank You Sir
'83 ZX1100 '81 Z1000ST, '04 GSX1400, '19 Dodge Challenger Hemi
Re: Z1000st Project
Hi Simonic
the pin that connects the propellershaft to the front bevel gear case measures: 6 mm long and has a diameter of 4 mm.
If it's this one, DON'T loose it, I'm not sure if you can stil buy it.
GrtZ
Philippe
the pin that connects the propellershaft to the front bevel gear case measures: 6 mm long and has a diameter of 4 mm.
If it's this one, DON'T loose it, I'm not sure if you can stil buy it.
GrtZ
Philippe
the differences between a little boy and an adult man is the price and size of their toys!
Re: Z1000st Project
All pins appear to be currently available from Cradley Heath Kawasaki
Gus
Gus
"Set the GRINDER on it"
Re: Z1000st Project
6mm by 4mm......That could well be it..... Now...Where did i put it ??
'83 ZX1100 '81 Z1000ST, '04 GSX1400, '19 Dodge Challenger Hemi
Re: Z1000st Project
I had a trip to my engine builers last week. He was partly thru doing the grinding in of the valves and a little porting. While he is finishing this off i've brought the crankcases home to paint.
I'm going for a stock look in black.
So,gentlemen.
What should i use for paint?
I'm able to spray thru a gun as well as use a rattle can and i have facilities to cure.
Thank You
I'm going for a stock look in black.
So,gentlemen.
What should i use for paint?
I'm able to spray thru a gun as well as use a rattle can and i have facilities to cure.
Thank You
'83 ZX1100 '81 Z1000ST, '04 GSX1400, '19 Dodge Challenger Hemi
Re: Z1000st Project
Simoniz / Sperex Tough black satin or Wurth satin black is the closest to the stock finish you will get and can be either cured in use or baked on.
Once cured they are both fuel and heat resistant and last for years.
Once cured they are both fuel and heat resistant and last for years.
Re: Z1000st Project
zed1015 wrote:Simoniz / Sperex Tough black satin or Wurth satin black is the closest to the stock finish you will get and can be either cured in use or baked on.
Once cured they are both fuel and heat resistant and last for years.
Thank You Sir.
Much appreciated
Simon
'83 ZX1100 '81 Z1000ST, '04 GSX1400, '19 Dodge Challenger Hemi
Re: Z1000st Project
Hi Simon
it looks like a new engine ! Great job! Will be splendid after painting.
Carry on my friend
GrtZ
Philippe
it looks like a new engine ! Great job! Will be splendid after painting.
Carry on my friend
GrtZ
Philippe
the differences between a little boy and an adult man is the price and size of their toys!
Re: Z1000st Project
Philippe wrote:Hi Simon
it looks like a new engine ! Great job! Will be splendid after painting.
Carry on my friend
GrtZ
Philippe
Thank You Philippe
'83 ZX1100 '81 Z1000ST, '04 GSX1400, '19 Dodge Challenger Hemi
Re: Z1000st Project
Hello Gentlemen.
Today i'm removing the swinging arm from the frame.
I've hit a small snag,wonder if you guys can help at all.
I've added a pic from the manual so you can see what i'm talking about.
So. I've removed the dust cover(1)Unscrewed the nut (2) Taken out the allen bolts(3)Removed the triangular plate(4)
I'm struggling to remove(5)The threaded end to the left is now exposed,the right hand end looks to be plain with now thread so i'm thinking it should jut pull out,is this the case?
Any tips much appreciated
I'm sorry the pic has come thru sideways.....
Today i'm removing the swinging arm from the frame.
I've hit a small snag,wonder if you guys can help at all.
I've added a pic from the manual so you can see what i'm talking about.
So. I've removed the dust cover(1)Unscrewed the nut (2) Taken out the allen bolts(3)Removed the triangular plate(4)
I'm struggling to remove(5)The threaded end to the left is now exposed,the right hand end looks to be plain with now thread so i'm thinking it should jut pull out,is this the case?
Any tips much appreciated
I'm sorry the pic has come thru sideways.....
'83 ZX1100 '81 Z1000ST, '04 GSX1400, '19 Dodge Challenger Hemi
Re: Z1000st Project
Hi Simonic
part n° 5 is the pivot shaft. It should come out easy...if there's no rust between the shaft and the frame.
The outer end has a thread, the inner end sits in the swing arm bearing.
If it's stuck, use some penetrating oil and leave it for a while...if it remains stuck take an allen key and put it in the hexagonal hole in the pivot shaft and gently try to turn it around, clockwise or counterclockwise doesn't matter. As soon as it turns freely around you can remove it .
In the ultimate case you can try this method:
- get three longer allen bolts M8 and three M8 nuts
- screw the pivot shaft stop(triangular plate) on the pivot shaft threaded end but not completely, leave room for the three nuts between the frame and the stopper
- put the three allen bolts through the plate, screw the nuts on them and screw the bolts in the holes of the frame so that the triangular plate is stuck and doesn't turn,
- turn the pivot shaft clockwise with the allen key
- the pivot shaft should come out now.
Don't use too much strenght so that you don't damage the thread on the pivot shaft or the hexagonal hole in the pivot shaft.
A lot of penetrating oil and patience should do the job
And don't forget, when putting the pivot shaft back, to put enough grease on it in order to prevent it from sticking in the frame again
Good luck with it!
GrtZ
Philippe
part n° 5 is the pivot shaft. It should come out easy...if there's no rust between the shaft and the frame.
The outer end has a thread, the inner end sits in the swing arm bearing.
If it's stuck, use some penetrating oil and leave it for a while...if it remains stuck take an allen key and put it in the hexagonal hole in the pivot shaft and gently try to turn it around, clockwise or counterclockwise doesn't matter. As soon as it turns freely around you can remove it .
In the ultimate case you can try this method:
- get three longer allen bolts M8 and three M8 nuts
- screw the pivot shaft stop(triangular plate) on the pivot shaft threaded end but not completely, leave room for the three nuts between the frame and the stopper
- put the three allen bolts through the plate, screw the nuts on them and screw the bolts in the holes of the frame so that the triangular plate is stuck and doesn't turn,
- turn the pivot shaft clockwise with the allen key
- the pivot shaft should come out now.
Don't use too much strenght so that you don't damage the thread on the pivot shaft or the hexagonal hole in the pivot shaft.
A lot of penetrating oil and patience should do the job
And don't forget, when putting the pivot shaft back, to put enough grease on it in order to prevent it from sticking in the frame again
Good luck with it!
GrtZ
Philippe
the differences between a little boy and an adult man is the price and size of their toys!
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