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Z1100ST Resto +
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- RALPHARAMA
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samspoons wrote:Good to see a proper craftsman at work, fantastic job. Were you a toolmaker in another life.
Trouble is now everbodys seen you in action and the quality of your work you will be snowed out with jobs and know time for projects
'sfunny you should say that
Not a tool fitter; time served Airframe and systems fitter - British Aerospace, Filton
For a side car chassis I would be inclined to use powder coat; but two pack paint is the next toughest thing. The worst available paint is the most commonly available water based paint championed by the tree huggers grr
Ralph Ferrand
Z1000A1 (1977), Godier Genoud Z1300A5 (1983), Z900A4 Stock (1976), Z900A4 Special (project), GPZ1100 Unitrak (1983), ZRX1200R (2004) DT175MX (1981).
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j.wilson wrote:VDUK, tell us about your steering head bearing drift tool- where did you get it from- how much?
I'd like one.
I got it from a trade supplier. There does seemed to be a lot of interest in it. The UK importer is out of stock, I bought the last one for GB. I think I may look at getting a whole load in for those interested. They come from Germany and I was very impressed with mine
Ralph Ferrand
Z1000A1 (1977), Godier Genoud Z1300A5 (1983), Z900A4 Stock (1976), Z900A4 Special (project), GPZ1100 Unitrak (1983), ZRX1200R (2004) DT175MX (1981).
http://www.bikerstoolbox.co.uk
Don't be caught out http://www.dhlparcels.info/
Z1000A1 (1977), Godier Genoud Z1300A5 (1983), Z900A4 Stock (1976), Z900A4 Special (project), GPZ1100 Unitrak (1983), ZRX1200R (2004) DT175MX (1981).
http://www.bikerstoolbox.co.uk
Don't be caught out http://www.dhlparcels.info/
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Thanks for the kind comments ladz
Having tried all the chemicals known to man; I realised that chemicals weren't the answer
Baking soda was
with 150PSI pushing it out
Here's as far as I got with the lotions and potions.
Here's a test patch I did by the 2 candle power outside light in front of my workshop
I blasted both wheels last night and they're ready for polishing and masking for paint now.
I will go into a little more detail on the soda blasting thread
Having tried all the chemicals known to man; I realised that chemicals weren't the answer
Baking soda was
Here's as far as I got with the lotions and potions.
Here's a test patch I did by the 2 candle power outside light in front of my workshop
I blasted both wheels last night and they're ready for polishing and masking for paint now.
I will go into a little more detail on the soda blasting thread
Ralph Ferrand
Z1000A1 (1977), Godier Genoud Z1300A5 (1983), Z900A4 Stock (1976), Z900A4 Special (project), GPZ1100 Unitrak (1983), ZRX1200R (2004) DT175MX (1981).
http://www.bikerstoolbox.co.uk
Don't be caught out http://www.dhlparcels.info/
Z1000A1 (1977), Godier Genoud Z1300A5 (1983), Z900A4 Stock (1976), Z900A4 Special (project), GPZ1100 Unitrak (1983), ZRX1200R (2004) DT175MX (1981).
http://www.bikerstoolbox.co.uk
Don't be caught out http://www.dhlparcels.info/
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Did a bit of prep last night and played with my latest toy - the stripping bath. My mate gave me a powerful DC power supply, which should be good for the zinc plating which I am going to have a crack at also. The power supply wasn't working but I soon found the culprit - a dry joint!. It is a very simple piece of kit - a giant variac and four feck off big diodes with big rooster heat sinks forming a bridge rectifier
The bath is obviously made from a cheap plastic box with a copper bar over the top and a couple of sheets of three pound lead.
When the power supply first failed to work I couldn't bear to wait to try it so I stuck a car battery on it
There was a big fizzing and bubbling and it stripped the bits in under ten seconds. It was fun, but clearly drawing way too much current and filling my workshop with acid vapour. It's a bit more civilised now with around three volts and 4 amps
The items start a bit shitty ...
... then are wire wheeled to remove all the crap ...
... they then take a swim in the energized aceeed ...
... after the swim they are swilled under the workshop bog tap ...
... and then polished ...
.. never losing sight of the fact that the finish you put on the parts is exactly the same as post plating - the only difference is that with a jacket of copper, nickle and chromium they won't rust ... as fast
My obsession with wanting to do all the stages of the resto myself is mad. I know someone who will do all the cleaning striping, polishing and plating for three quid a cylinder nut; until you've had a crack at it yourself, you have no idea what a bargain that it
I think I am going to move the striping tank outside as I am asthmatic and I could hardly breath last night after striping a handful of nuts and bolts. I needed loads of Ventolin and Glen Fiddich to get me firing all four again
The bath is obviously made from a cheap plastic box with a copper bar over the top and a couple of sheets of three pound lead.
When the power supply first failed to work I couldn't bear to wait to try it so I stuck a car battery on it
The items start a bit shitty ...
... then are wire wheeled to remove all the crap ...
... they then take a swim in the energized aceeed ...
... after the swim they are swilled under the workshop bog tap ...
... and then polished ...
.. never losing sight of the fact that the finish you put on the parts is exactly the same as post plating - the only difference is that with a jacket of copper, nickle and chromium they won't rust ... as fast
My obsession with wanting to do all the stages of the resto myself is mad. I know someone who will do all the cleaning striping, polishing and plating for three quid a cylinder nut; until you've had a crack at it yourself, you have no idea what a bargain that it
I think I am going to move the striping tank outside as I am asthmatic and I could hardly breath last night after striping a handful of nuts and bolts. I needed loads of Ventolin and Glen Fiddich to get me firing all four again
Ralph Ferrand
Z1000A1 (1977), Godier Genoud Z1300A5 (1983), Z900A4 Stock (1976), Z900A4 Special (project), GPZ1100 Unitrak (1983), ZRX1200R (2004) DT175MX (1981).
http://www.bikerstoolbox.co.uk
Don't be caught out http://www.dhlparcels.info/
Z1000A1 (1977), Godier Genoud Z1300A5 (1983), Z900A4 Stock (1976), Z900A4 Special (project), GPZ1100 Unitrak (1983), ZRX1200R (2004) DT175MX (1981).
http://www.bikerstoolbox.co.uk
Don't be caught out http://www.dhlparcels.info/
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These bloody wheels are doing my head in
I thought that they were the original powder coat and that I could just blow on some two pack and the that would be it.
I masked up the front wheel and for some reason put some masking tape on the paint. When I removed it some of the bloody paint stuck to it
Not a great key for the new paint
Of course I had just spent hours masking up and had of course finished polishing the rims, which was a mighty unpleasant job.
I tried paint stripper, but it still wasn't doing the job. It turned out that there was some red paint underneath on the front, which had been partially removed, but the base was black. There was nothing else for it - put the lot in the bead blast cabinet! This meant I had to re-mask both wheels in gaffer tape, before blasting could begin. Getting the front into the cabinet was a very tight squeeze.
I then had to strip of the blasting masking and re-mask with masking tape for the paint. I've made the mistake of leaving the blast masking for the paint before and it's not a mistake I'll repeat
Masking isn't too bad a job, I tend to get into listening to podcasts, mostly from Radio 4.
Here's the wheels blasted and ready for some Zinc Chromate Etch Primer.
And here are the front and backs with the primer applied.
They are now poisoning the air in my workshop, making it impossible to work in there
Fingers crossed that the weather is dry tomorrow and I'll blow on some two pack black on them.
I masked up the front wheel and for some reason put some masking tape on the paint. When I removed it some of the bloody paint stuck to it
I tried paint stripper, but it still wasn't doing the job. It turned out that there was some red paint underneath on the front, which had been partially removed, but the base was black. There was nothing else for it - put the lot in the bead blast cabinet! This meant I had to re-mask both wheels in gaffer tape, before blasting could begin. Getting the front into the cabinet was a very tight squeeze.
I then had to strip of the blasting masking and re-mask with masking tape for the paint. I've made the mistake of leaving the blast masking for the paint before and it's not a mistake I'll repeat
Here's the wheels blasted and ready for some Zinc Chromate Etch Primer.
And here are the front and backs with the primer applied.
They are now poisoning the air in my workshop, making it impossible to work in there
Ralph Ferrand
Z1000A1 (1977), Godier Genoud Z1300A5 (1983), Z900A4 Stock (1976), Z900A4 Special (project), GPZ1100 Unitrak (1983), ZRX1200R (2004) DT175MX (1981).
http://www.bikerstoolbox.co.uk
Don't be caught out http://www.dhlparcels.info/
Z1000A1 (1977), Godier Genoud Z1300A5 (1983), Z900A4 Stock (1976), Z900A4 Special (project), GPZ1100 Unitrak (1983), ZRX1200R (2004) DT175MX (1981).
http://www.bikerstoolbox.co.uk
Don't be caught out http://www.dhlparcels.info/
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Top job there.
Love the fact that you're doing this and finding the problems with the powder coating and then overcoming them.
The wheels look as if they'll be top when they've been painted.
Seeing how you're getting on will encourage others to do their own wheels.
Maybe you've started a precedent here.
Can't wait to see how the wheels come out once they're wearing rubber and back on the bike.
It'll be all worthwhile.
Love the fact that you're doing this and finding the problems with the powder coating and then overcoming them.
The wheels look as if they'll be top when they've been painted.
Seeing how you're getting on will encourage others to do their own wheels.
Maybe you've started a precedent here.
Can't wait to see how the wheels come out once they're wearing rubber and back on the bike.
It'll be all worthwhile.
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