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ELR Pingel with RS34's

#1 PostAuthor: Stugill » Tue Feb 01, 2022 1:42 pm

Good afternoon all.

I have a 1984 Z1000R2 and there are a few bits I want to sort out, one being...

I noticed that it was leaking slightly from the stock vacuum Petcock, this was on both the side and centre stand. I have changed the innards of it at least twice in the last 3-5 years and i'm thinking of a Pingel as i'm getting fed up with it.

I have RS34's on the bike and I was wondering if the Pingel is a straight swap, ie when in position it's doesn't hit the top of the carbs?

Any alternative thoughts/ideas are of course welcome.

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Re: ELR Pingel with RS34's

#2 PostAuthor: Robw » Tue Feb 01, 2022 3:36 pm

Pingels are taller than standard. I have a pingel fitted to my lawson with keihin cr33 carbs and it is close to the top of the carbs. On one of my bikes I have used two tank rubbers at the rear, just to lift it up slightly. The tank on that one is very different to a standard one, so might not be relevant.
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Re: ELR Pingel with RS34's

#3 PostAuthor: Stugill » Wed Feb 02, 2022 6:16 pm

Thanks Rob, I'll bite the bullet and give them a try.

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Re: ELR Pingel with RS34's

#4 PostAuthor: Al » Wed Feb 02, 2022 10:26 pm

I was too tight to buy one. My standard tap leaked a little for a long while even after throwing new bits into it twice. I had an old, but different (very similar) tap laying about and managed to rob the thin crinkle shim out of it and cram it into mine. It is a little stiff. You could say un-necessarily positive but has not leaked one drop for about three years. It will probably wear out the ported rubber ring prematurely but not in the time i have been using it in this way so far.

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Re: ELR Pingel with RS34's

#5 PostAuthor: weaver » Thu Feb 03, 2022 12:35 pm

You may be able to find a new tap on line as the taps often fit various models, I found one for my ELR in the states a few years ago.

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Re: ELR Pingel with RS34's

#6 PostAuthor: Stugill » Thu Feb 03, 2022 4:29 pm

Thanks for the replies.

I've also been reticent to splash out on the Pingel, as they are ample coin.

I also managed to get a replacement a few years back, that leaked and so I replaced the innards and that leaked after a while. Which was a pain.

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Re: ELR Pingel with RS34's

#7 PostAuthor: rpeters » Fri Feb 04, 2022 7:02 am

I run pingle on my Z1R with RS34's no problem
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Re: ELR Pingel with RS34's

#8 PostAuthor: Stugill » Fri Feb 04, 2022 10:20 am

Rob.

Thanks, that's good news.

Is it a straight swop? Or does the tank hole need altering?
The current one has a slightly elongated hole due to the filter element.

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Re: ELR Pingel with RS34's

#9 PostAuthor: rpeters » Fri Feb 04, 2022 11:06 am

STu,

Not on the Z1R, thats a straightforward male boss connection. I think you need the adaptor plate
I also have one on my Z1300 which has the elongated hole. The pingle will not fit through the slot, you need to file off a little material either side of the slot with a rounded file.
From memory it was the same with my old ELR which had the pingle treatment.

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Re: ELR Pingel with RS34's

#10 PostAuthor: Stugill » Fri Feb 04, 2022 11:48 am

Cheers Rob.

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Re: ELR Pingel with RS34's

#11 PostAuthor: Gus » Fri Feb 04, 2022 12:42 pm

rpeters wrote:STu,

The pingle will not fit through the slot, you need to file off a little material either side of the slot with a rounded file.

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Had to do the same on the Z1000A2 tank with the slotted hole.

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Re: ELR Pingel with RS34's

#12 PostAuthor: chrisu » Fri Feb 04, 2022 2:18 pm

Gus wrote:
rpeters wrote:STu,

The pingle will not fit through the slot, you need to file off a little material either side of the slot with a rounded file.

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Had to do the same on the Z1000A2 tank with the slotted hole.

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And the Mk2 tank on my Z1R as well..................

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Re: ELR Pingel with RS34's

#13 PostAuthor: Stugill » Sat Feb 05, 2022 8:08 am

If I alter the current hole to fit the Pingel is there any going back? IE can the original (or equivalent) petcock be used?

I imagine it would be someone else's problem, but would like all the information before I decide.

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Re: ELR Pingel with RS34's

#14 PostAuthor: rpeters » Sun Feb 06, 2022 7:04 am

I think the new hole would be pretty close to the seal. Measure you clearance between sea an measure Pringle filter to check
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Re: ELR Pingel with RS34's

#15 PostAuthor: rpeters » Sun Feb 06, 2022 7:04 am

Between seal
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